“On Alien Philosophy”
by rsbakker
The Journal of Consciousness Studies published “On Alien Philosophy” today–a nice way ring in my 50th year on this planet! The quotable version can be found here, but I’ve also uploaded the preprint version (with a handful of errors, including one on Dennett caught by Dennett himself no less) here. This paper has it all, only laid out in a way that saddles critics with an enormous abductive challenge. Quibbling with this or that atom of my argument is easy–too easy. The challenge is to do so in a manner explaining as much as parsimoniously.
Abstract: Given a sufficiently convergent cognitive biology, we might suppose that aliens would likely find themselves perplexed by many of the same kinds of problems that inform our traditional and contemporary philosophical debates. In particular, we can presume that ‘humanoid’ aliens would be profoundly stumped by themselves, and that they would possess a philosophical tradition organized around ‘hard problems’ falling out of their inability to square their scientific self-understanding with their traditional and/or intuitive self-understanding. As speculative as any such consideration of ‘alien philosophy’ must be, it provides a striking, and perhaps important, way to recontextualize contemporary human debates regarding cognition and consciousness.
Having contributed my bit to the great endeavour to unravel the mysteries of consciousness and cognition, I now turn to more traditional methods of unravelling consciousness and cognition… gracefully, or not. 50 deserves a hangover.
Damn right, your 50 deserves my hangover too. It’s time to hoist a few and send my best greetings to you, Mr. Bakker!
Thank you Selwyn.
Happy birthday! And congrats on the publication of this and your piece in Cosmos and History.
Thanks, dharm–been a long strange road, hasn’t it?
We’re a bit of an only child species, no siblings to see parallels that temper our own self evaluation. How about a fantasy version ‘On Elven Philosophy’? Pretty sure that’d disseminate in the wider public quite nicely! Happy birthday!
Damn fine idea, Callan. Thank you.
did DD give you any feedback beyond the correction?
you should send a copy to yer fellow philo-novelist Alex Rosenberg @ Duke
http://www.alexrose46.com/
He just said he thought it was a fine contribution to the skeptics cause. He’s always been gracious, and brief, in our exchanges. I’ve tried to reach out to Alex a couple of times. It’s his turn, now.
very good yes Dan’s a charitable fellow along these lines, i sent this to Alex (see yer inbox) so hopefully you will hear from him
Happy birthday!
Thank you, Wilshire. My wife got me tickets to watch the Leafs play in Buffalo in about a month or so. You a hockey fan?
Congratulations, duder. Pretty cool.
And happy birthday! We’ll have to link up for a beer at some point. Cheers. Hope you have a great day.
Yes indeed! I’m up to my eyeballs with the TUC copy edit at the moment, but afterward, we must drink.
Congratulations! I wish I could read the reviewer comments.
Thank you. Vastly different (I think one was a psychologist, the other an astrobiologist) but uniformly enthusiastic. They convinced me to cut the giant analogy that several of my draft readers thought was the imaginative heart and soul of the paper, but my hope is to put that up here in a bit.
Happy Birthday Scott!
Thank you Alex!
You’re welcome, Hangover!
Happy Birthday!
My wife just celebrated her 50th this past Saturday… we had a big bash for her at the curling club in Cambridge (just down the highway from you a piece I believe).
I’m also staring 50 in the face. Definitely a good excuse to get nice and hammered. How did I get so old all of a sudden?
Same way as me, likely: you weren’t paying attention.
Thank you, rundlesten!
Happy Birthday! I turned 31 yesterday (February 1st).
Happy Birthday right back at you, you lucky young bastard!
If now is all the same now, then how can 50? Checkmate atheists.
Congrats on the inroads you’ve made on getting academics to start taking you seriously.
Thank you my brother.
Orange s
QQuick Rundown
http://imgur.com/6SSUXS8
https://www.lionsroar.com/youre-ready-enough/
What is an awesomely powerful space-time tail-twister?
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/what-is-philosophys-point-part-5-a-call-for-negative-philosophy/?wt.mc=SA_Twitter-Share
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/u-s-scientists-turn-north-for-help-making-tomatoes-great-again-and-more-1.3954868/carl-sagan-predicted-our-trump-era-future-1.3954900
“Take me to your leader”
http://www.neuroquantology.com/index.php/journal/article/view/572/554
https://podcast.lannan.org/2017/01/22/china-mieville-with-jordana-rosenberg-reading-18-january-2017-video/
https://www.edge.org/conversation/david_chalmers-the-mind-bleeds-into-the-world
I actually saw him talk about this at Western about a year ago, but his investment in representationalism means he really doesn’t have the tools to do much more than gesture to things–I think, anyway.
indeed, and yet by his addressing these issues of tech/niche-construction in such public and interdisciplinary forums the trend is moving yer way, instrumentalism and alienism for all…
Kinda spooky isn’t it?
Have you seen this yet? He has a dispositionalist theory of meaning (and so remains tangled in misapplications of aboutness) but the contours of his argument are the same as my own.
more ghostly, was there supposed to be a link in that gap?
I read Clark’s book on Cyborgs and remembered being enamored at the time, but I wonder if a lot of this stuff isn’t any different than just having a different set of *metaphorics of the soul*. I didn’t see where it really solved any problems. It’s like hey… it’s cool to think of yourself along these lines.
VI, think you may be confusing Clark and Chalmers?
Andy is doing good work with engineers and others, Chalmers is bewitched by grammar, good for scifi but not much else.
https://syntheticzero.net/?s=clark
No, specifically thinking of Clark’s position on the extended mind and his speculation on the extended cybernetic self. I still need to read his Whatever Next. What else do you recommend I look at by Clark?
Since it’s a party, can I suggest a party game? I ran across the ‘Monty haul problem’ recently and the many assertions that ‘you should switch, it’s the right answer!’. In theme with the blog, I’m going to suggest this conclusion is a result of ‘flicker fusion’ and false!
party games: come with a biomechanical reinterpretation of “false” which won’t autotrigger intentionalists into thinking you supposed Originary Intentionality
Otherwise that’d be a drinking game, where intentionalists do a shot every time they hear ‘false’ and insist you have done a shot too, until they are too drunk to hear otherwise.
Actually it’d be funny if the devils chirp was instead in the format of defining words by drinking games! I wonder if that’d distribute well amongst general populace?
games over for the for the bipedal hominids, too dumb to live:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/08/opinion/how-the-anti-vaxxers-are-winning.html?
One cannot raise inoculations against that which has been forgotten?
Dude, you are on fire recently with your posts.
I mean, TDTCB does start with Ishuäl receiving the loving caress of Akkeägni.
Congrats, and Happy Birthday! “On Alien Philosophy” is easily my favorite of your non-fiction writings (speculation on E.T. neurophysiology’s one helluva drug).
Thank you Francis! Smoke responsibly.
Wonder if they are out there….
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/this-aint-your-grandmas-seti/
Have you read this one?
http://m.imgur.com/GXek28z?r
Lol, that’s me, MG :P.
“We build our computer (systems) the way we build our cities: over time, without a plan, on top of ruins.” – Ellen Ullman
rsb, you need to write some near-future scifi w/ roden
https://scout.ai/story/the-rise-of-the-weaponized-ai-propaganda-machine
We’re in the belly of the Beast.
indeed
http://www.recode.net/2017/2/15/14629310/full-transcript-hit-makers-author-derek-thompson-recode-media-podcast
Peace in the struggle
to find Peace